Here's hoping there's no need to call anyone out for asking for an update. *crosses fingers*

Anyway, hello, everyone! Yes, I am still alive. I just needed time to make sure I knew what I was doing. Transcripts are easy to get through. It's not as easy writing an original story when you need to come up with new plotlines AND new dialogue AND making sure you get the characters as close to correct as possible. Begging me for updates does not make me go faster. I would not have gotten this chapter done the way I did had people kept bugging me.

Speaking of the chapter, here we are! The Daxam Four keep discussing Savitar, a certain someone is also discussed, and a new POV at the end!

Enjoy chapter eight!

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"OK, I've faced some pretty messed up people, but this is a whole new level of messed up," Sara rubbed her temples.

"I'm Savitar," Barry repeated blankly as Kara rubbed his back. "That . . . why did I never think of that?"

"Barry," Oliver began.

"He gave me everything!" Barry gestured wildly.

"Barry – "

"Speedster, knowing the team, the future Flash – "

"Barry!" Oliver snapped, cutting his friend off. He put his hand on Barry's shoulder, giving him a stern look. "Your main concern was Savitar killing Iris. A threat to someone you love can screw with your head to the point something obvious isn't. Sometimes you need someone to point these things out to you, and that's what just happened."

Barry sighed, rubbing his forehead. "But what if we hadn't figured this out until just a few days before Iris's death?"

"We won't know," Sara shrugged. "What's important is that we know who Savitar is now, and hopefully we can figure something out to defeat him."

"But Kara and the Daxamites – "

Sara snorted loudly. "Didn't we just clarify we were going up against all of our enemies? The Daxamites and the time traveling maniacs and Savitar. We're in a stalemate with Thawne, Merlyn, and Darhk right now, and if the Daxamites are anywhere near as strong as Kara – "

"They've got super strength," Kara confirmed.

"Then we need time to think of how we take them on," Sara nodded. "So we're gonna help you, Barry. It might be easiest to take Savitar on first, anyway." When Oliver raised an eyebrow, Sara rolled her eyes. "All right, a speedster who thinks he's a god or a speedster with two former League members as his goons? Which do you prefer, Ollie?"

"Savitar," he sighed. "All right, so we know it's a version of Barry from the future. How could he have ended up this way?"

"Maybe because I know Savitar is me, it has to happen?" Barry tilted his head.

"Barry, you love Iris so much," Kara shook her head. "There is no way, knowing the future or not, that you would want to kill her." She paused, then put her face in her hands. "You're right, Sara – this is messed up."

"I agree with Kara, though," Oliver frowned as Sara patted Kara's shoulder comfortingly. "In what universe would Barry want to kill Iris?"

"Could it be an alternate universe, though?" Sara tilted her head, folding her arms. "I get the concept, but is there any way it could be so similar?"

"I don't know," Barry admitted. "On Earth-2, Caitlin, Cisco, and Ronnie were evil."

Oliver nodded slowly, then tilted his head. "And who else there was evil, Barry?" he asked casually, but there was a tinge of anger there, too.

Sara raised an eyebrow, then looked at Barry when the speedster blanched. "Barry?" she prompted.

He sighed. "Laurel," he admitted. "Laurel was evil there, too. And she was a metahuman."

"Laurel?" Sara demanded, eyes wide in horror. "My sister?" She paused. "Wait, how did you know?" she asked Oliver.

"Because my villain broke her out of S.T.A.R. Labs," Oliver answered dryly. "And she tried to impersonate our Laurel."

"What?!" Sara whirled around on Barry, who looked even more miserable than before, which was saying something. Kara wisely backed away slightly, knowing this wasn't her argument. "Barry! Why didn't you say something? To me, or to Oliver? Did Dad even know?"

"No," Barry shook his head. "Felicity knew – "

"Felicity?"

"And that was when I was dealing with the speedster who killed my father," Barry cut in, rubbing his forehead. "It's an excuse, I know that, but my mind wasn't in the right place. You know what happened even after that." Sara fuming was enough of an answer – Flashpoint had happened. "Sara, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, too, Oliver. I thought Felicity would have told you."

"She did after Black Siren attacked her in the bunker," Oliver shook his head. "And we have refrained from telling Quentin – "

"Oliver!" Sara spun on him next.

"Sara, it's not Laurel Lance from this Earth," Oliver told her firmly. "She manipulated all of us to make us believe she was. If there's any part of her that's like our Laurel, there wasn't time for me to find it before we got her locked back up."

"Maybe if she actually saw the family of this universe's Laurel?" Kara suggested hesitantly. "And what if she somehow escapes again? And found Laurel's family?"

Sara gestured to Kara. "See? Someone got her out of S.T.A.R. Labs, which is known for holding metahumans. Someone could get her out of . . . let me guess, A.R.G.U.S.?" Oliver nodded in response. "They're good, but can they really hold Laurel?"

"It's worked so far," Oliver shrugged.

"OK, I don't care what else gets done the time we're here," Sara folded her arms. "I want to see her."

"I'll contact Lyla," Oliver nodded.

"So, back to Savitar," Kara scratched her head. "It sounds like Barry could possibly be evil on another Earth – "

"Oh, I was just a huge dork on Earth-2," Barry rolled his eyes. "I wasn't evil."

Oliver snorted. "Only you, Barry."

"Shut up, Oliver."

"So the only thing we can go with is that this is a future Barry?" Kara looked around. "I don't like that."

"I don't, either," Oliver shook his head. "You're certain that's our only option?"

Sara, meanwhile, had started pacing again, absently snapping her fingers. She stopped, then turned around. "Professor Stein said that Eobard Thawne was erased from existence," she told Barry. "His ancestor killed himself?"

"Yeah," Barry nodded.

"So how come he's still around?"

"Probably a time remnant to keep the timeline intact," Barry said after a moment of thought, then blinked. "A time remnant!"

"A what?" Kara blinked.

"Uh, it's kind of hard to explain," Barry scratched his head. "Well, maybe not really. Time remnants are created when speedsters run back in time and meet themselves. Thawne played such a crucial role in the timeline that the Speed Force must have created time remnants to make sure it stayed intact. No matter which speedster it is, a time remnant has all of the original speedster's memories. They basically are the speedster, except they're not the original."

"So maybe the you that's Savitar is a time remnant?" Kara frowned. "That still doesn't make any sense. Why would any version of this you want to kill Iris?"

"I don't know," Barry shook his head. "It makes me sick to think about the very idea that I could kill her."

"Well, here's what I've gathered from this," Oliver frowned. "Savitar is a time remnant of you, and he kills Iris. But you said that time remnants have the memories of their original selves."

"That's right," Barry nodded.

"So Savitar has to know that we've figured out who he is now."

There was silence. "Oh, that's a problem," Sara winced.

"He'll know what we're planning," Kara breathed.

"But isn't that easily solved?" Barry looked between them. "I just won't be here when you make the plan."

"You can't be there when we execute the plan, either," Oliver pointed out. "That's the problem. Savitar will remember what we go through when we try and stop him. He'll know exactly what we'll do, and somehow, he'll figure out a way to get the better of us."

Barry slumped in his seat. "So you'll be one speedster down when you face him."

Oliver's smile was all grim. "I don't like it, Barry, but . . . well, it's you."

Barry just nodded. "I hate it."

"I do, too," Kara smiled sadly. "But if it saves Iris . . . "

Barry sighed, then nodded. "I'll get out of here, then. Let you guys start planning."

"Well . . . " The three Earth-1ers looked at Kara, who was staring thoughtfully at the board. "I might have something crazy."

***

"No one's killing Kara. Not on my watch."

"She helped save our world when the only person she knew was Barry. Probably about time we helped her out on her world."

"You haven't met Oliver Queen."

"Sara's diverting the Waverider here right now."

Tools went flying everywhere as a young man with scarring on the side of his face lashed out, snarling in fury as images flashed through his mind. Images that were memories. Memoires he hadn't had forty-eight hours ago.

"We've been a team since the Dominators, and Kara's on our team."

"Guess we're all teaming up again."

Oliver Queen and Sara Lance. The Green Arrow and the White Canary. They were the last two people he needed on his tail. And Supergirl? He was faster, but she was stronger, far stronger. Normally, he would feel better when confronted with new memories. No, what was the concern . . . they knew who he was.

"There's someone inside the suit. We just need to figure out who it is."

"So Savitar knows what you do before you do it, and he knows all of you like the universe's creepiest shrink."

"Is the man inside the suit a speedster? Or is the suit what makes him a speedster?"

"He said he was the future Flash."

"Savitar: a speedster inside a suit, who knows Barry's team like he was a part of it, and knows every single move they make. Of course he would know – he's done them all before. Because, like Savitar said, he is the future Flash."

Savitar snarled and threw another toolbox aside, reaching up and running his hands through his hair. God damn Oliver Queen! God damn him and the others for ruining his plan!

"Time remnants are created when speedsters run back in time and meet themselves. They basically are the speedster, except they're not the original."

"But you said that time remnants have the memories of their original selves."

"He'll know what we're planning."

"Savitar will remember what we go through when we try and stop him. He'll know exactly what we'll do, and somehow, he'll figure out a way to get the better of us."

Savitar leaned against the table, anger still zipping through him like the Speed Force. It was always Barry Allen getting everything. But while he was still Barry Allen, that didn't seem to matter to everyone else in his life. He was just an aberration, something that shouldn't exist.

And Barry Allen got the support of everyone around him.

Savitar narrowed his eyes. Fine. Let them play that way. Let them plot with the original Barry Allen away from them. His pain would end, and he would become the god he was going to be. All he had to do was kill Iris differently than Barry remembered. How hard could that be?

He paused as another memory formed. Or maybe . . . just maybe . . . His scowl morphed into a maniacal smirk. Now that was an option worth considering.

"Well . . . I might have something crazy."

How far gone would Barry Allen be if something happened to sweet Kara Danvers?

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Well, hello to you, too, Savitar. }:)

Right now, Savitar's arc is the only one that I really know the individual plot points for. Prometheus will still escape, but as to how that plays out, I'm not entirely sure yet. And the Legends will have help dealing with their Legion problem. How could I resist letting Oliver and Barry have the chance to go after Darhk and Thawne again?

Also, in other news, who else is terrified for "Battles Lost and Won" and "Life Sentence?" Those episode titles . . . you know, when you're trying to figure out a HEA to "The Unmatched Records," which will probably conclude with those episodes, those are not titles you want to see! *pouts*

Well, anyway. Hope you guys enjoyed the update! Quality over quickness, so I'll say it again - the next update will come when it's done.