Here's a part two, yaaaay! 

The amount of Piper apologists that I got from last chapter... man are you guys worrying (and I'm not just addressing the apologists who commented, I'm talking to the little private messengers, you know who you are ❤️).

I could've just sat there all day painstakingly replying to each comment and message (and probably repeating myself too), but this was a faaaar better idea and it's always fun for me to make rants. ESPECIALLY after having to read through THREE GODDAMN BOOKS FULL OF HER POV OMG YOU GUYS CANNOT BELIEVE HOW BADLY I'M SEETHING RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO VENT ASAP.

Now before I start, lemme introduce you to my favorite author Autumn who has a bunch of nice Piper rants in their rant book. They're from Quotev, so I'll post the link to it in the comments -->

These are the chapters you should check out:

- "Piper McLean Rant"

- "By the Way... (Piper McLean)"

- "By the Way... (Part Two)

- "Is Piper McLean a Sociopath?"

- "Piper McLean's Relationships"

- "Is Piper McLean a Psychopath?"

- "Jiper Rant"

- "Piper McLean Mary Sue Test"

- "Why Piper McLean Isn't Rebellious" 

Yeah I know there's a lot. You can see why I love them 😍Autumn doesn't just go on a mad frenzy in her rants, they don't go "PIPER SUCKS, SHE'S A TERRIBLE PERSON" and not give out reasons why, they provide reasons and  actual textual evidence from the books themselves and honestly, the rants are amazing and make sense.

(They don't use memes though 😭)

I'm putting this up here because 1) the rants are awesome. 2) I make references to their rants so you might not understand what I'm talking about. And 3) the rants are awesome.

Now time for my rant which I put in numerical order because why not 🤗

If any of you notice how weird and formal I suddenly become in my rant, it's because I copy-pasted some parts of my "Types of Abuse" essay from a previous psych class as well as my essay about the sociopathy of Ted Bundy for my abnormal psych class so yeah 🤡

If you feel called out in this, ok 💖

1. PIPER IS ABUSIVE

I already talked about this in the previous chapter where I brought up points of her constantly manipulating Jason before and after their relationship and people straight up said it wasn't abusive because "she was just in love with him and didn't want to lose him" as if that justified anything 💀

According to Doctor Bonior of Yale University (2018), a healthy relationship involves honesty, trust, respect, and open communication between partners. They take effort and compromise from both people. There shouldn't be any imbalance of power and "partners respect each other's independence, can make their own decisions without fear of retribution or retaliation, and share decisions" (Bonior, 2018). 

(Yeah I took that from my essay ashfwhgruy)

So going off on that... Piper already fails literally everything 💀

There's no trust in their relationship. You can easily see that with the amount of times Piper gets jealous. Usually that's okay. There's bound to be jealousy in relationships, that's normal, but Piper's jealousy goes beyond that to an unhealthy extent. 

Here are the times Piper got jealous that I could list off the top of my head:

- Got jealous when Annabeth was comforting Jason over his amnesia even though she already knew Annabeth had a boyfriend and was worried out of her mind for him because he was missing

- Got jealous when she saw Jason holding a picture of Thalia 

- Got jealous when Khione interacted with Jason

- Got jealous when Drew flirted with Jason and even went so far as to threaten her life and claim Jason as hers after a week of barely him 

- Got jealous when she saw the Aphrodite cabin complimenting and giggling over him and called them 'losers' even though that's literally all she ever does in hER WAY TOO MANY POVS WHY DOES SHE HAVE SO MANY POVS MY EYES ARE BLEEDING—

- Reyna. Literally anything Reyna 💀

And there's many more times where she threw bitch fits. It's so clear that she doesn't trust Jason. Normal people in relationships would feel some jealousy but then they'd be like "Okay, just calm down. That person may be flirting, but I know my significant other would never flirt back or anything like that. I have nothing to worry about".

Piper never thought that way. She just kept bitching and bitching, which shows how little trust she actually has for Jason. 

JASON DOESN'T EVEN TRUST PIPER.

Want the proof? Here you go, sweeties! 💖

"Jason wondered if Piper was working some sort of Aphrodite magic on him—like maybe every time he mentioned Reyna's name, she would befuddle him so much he couldn't think about anything but Piper." (Taken directly from The House of Hades, chapter 34).

Awww how cute! They both don't trust each other! They're such couple goals 😍😍😍

(Also, idk if Autumn's reading this, but thank you again because they helped me find that quote 💖)

Now how on Earth is this a healthy relationship? Jason is literally suspicious of her controlling him through charmspeak. How is that healthy? How? If this was a healthy relationship, the very thought of your partner trying to control you shouldn't even cross your head. 

Also, remember the "partners respect each other's independence, can make their own decisions without fear of retribution or retaliation, and share decisions" part? Yeah that's definitely not Piper. 

Piper does not respect Jason's independence. She's been trying to control aspects of his life since day fucking one, the second she found out that her Mist memories were fake and NO, do NOT use that as a fucking reason to sympathize with her. I don't fucking care how sad it is that her relationship was fake. She can pity herself over it and that's understandable, but she has no right to keep trying to pursue the relationship afterwards. 

She took advantage over his amnesia. 

Obviously, it's not going to be explicitly stated cuz duh, Rick would never write his precious Piper in a bad light, she's supposed to be the good guy here, but this little bitch was so painfully OBVIOUS about her intentions. 

It's ABUSE for fucks sake. 

Emotional abuse is when one person, whether intentionally or otherwise, consciously or unconsciously, "engages in behavior that insults, threatens, rejects, neglects, blames, manipulates, isolates, degrades, punishes, humiliates, or exerts control over another. Fear, guilt, shame and are among common responses to, and goals of, emotional abuse" (Smith, 2017). 

The second Piper spotted a hot guy with amnesia, she went straight into jumping the dude's bones. Her plan was to literally make him fall in love with her in his amnesiac state because he was a blank canvas for her. He was very vulnerable and easy to manipulate. 

She guilted Jason into a relationship. He even said it himself that he felt bad for her. Had she just accepted that the memories were fake and moved on like a normal person, he would not have felt pity for her. She made it feel like her sadness was his fault—that's psychological abuse right there. 

And after they finally began dating? SHE KEPT DOING IT. She has expressed time and time again that she was aware that he had a life before his memories were wiped and that he could possibly have a loved one in his home, BUT SHE DID NOT CARE. 

She is constantly getting upset any time he talks about his home since he was a fucking toddler, or when he feels nostalgic, OR WHEN HE WEARS THE COLOR PURPLE???

She never said "Jason I don't like it when you do this and this", but you have to understand that abuse isn't always as straightforward as that. The way she expressed her disdain could be seen in her expressions or mannerisms that anyone could pick up on and understand. 

I don't why people aren't getting this, but taking advantage of a person ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE IN SUCH A VULNERABLE STATE (amnesia, and struggling to recover from their amnesia) IS CONSIDERED ABUSE. 

She knowingly manipulated him since she constantly talks about how worried she is that Jason would leave her. Now I've seen many people use that as a way to justify her actions. "She was just scared to lose Jason, you can't blame her 🥺" 

If you were worried if a partner was leaving you, do you know what you're supposed to do? COMMUNICATE, NOT FUCKING MANIPULATE THEM IN STAYING WITH YOU. Please never get into a relationship with anyone if you found Piper's actions acceptable for that situation. 

Let me make this easier for people to understand:

- Taking advantage over a person's amnesia = BAD

- Making a person feel guilty over something they have no control over = BAD

- Trying to control a person's life = BAD

- Manipulating someone = BAD

- Piper McLean = BAD. VERY VERY BAD. SHE IS A NO-NO ZONE

2. STOP VICTIM BLAMING JASON SMH

Jason was attracted to Piper, that's true. I won't deny it. I also won't deny that he didn't do anything to stop the relationship. 

But some people apparently thought that JASON was the problem and not Piper... 

Ya'll... Jason may have been attracted to her, but he's literally the victim here???

I know, I know. A guy can be a victim of abuse. Oh my god who knew?? It's almost like girls can be abusers too!!!!

First of all, Jason wasn't even aware that he was being manipulated. He just thought Piper was a cute girl who would never try to hurt him in any way. Unfortunately, he was wrong 🤗 

He had no idea how mentally disturbed Piper really was. If he were able to hear all of her jealous fits every time a girl so much looked at him or IF HE HEARD HER THREATEN TO KILL DREW AND CLAIM HIM LIKE SHE'S IN SOME WEIRD ALPHA WEREWOLF WATTPAD FIC, he most likely would've been taken a step back and reevaluated his judgements. 

If he knew she was taking advantage over his amnesia, he would've (respectfully) electrocuted her and gone straight back to Camp Jupiter. Okay I'm kidding, he's too nice to electrocute her. He probably would've just scheduled her an appointment with the nearest mental hospital, gave her a 'get well soon' card, and then left. 

He entered this relationship thinking he was dating a nice girl. You do realize that some people in emotionally and/or psychologically abusive relationships don't even realize they're in an emotionally and/or psychologically abusive relationship? 

Abusive individuals have the ability to be kind, caring, and generous at times. It's a weird phenomenon, but "the confusing fact of the matter is individuals who are capable of cruelty are also capable of kindness. They may be charming and generous at times. These instances of kindness or generosity may be good, but abuse is never okay" (Smith, 2018). Because of this, victims are often times left confused or put under the pretense that their relationship is normal and healthy when it actually isn't. 

So of course Jason would date her! Of course he would stay! He literally doesn't know what the fuck Piper's actually doing to him! She's not being obvious with her abuse and she's always acting very nice and sweet to him. 

But nooooooooo, Piper apologists always gotta blame Jason for it 😒

I also love how silent they all were when I talked about Jason and Piper switching roles in the previous chapter.

You guys would not be happy if Jason was the one with the fake memories of him dating Piper. 

If he was the one guilting her in a relationship, manipulating her, controlling her, getting upset anytime she tried to remember her old life, constantly getting jealous and aggressive towards people she talked with or people who looked at her, getting pissy if she wore the same color as her home, or if he said "she may not know it yet, but she's MINE."

These sort of traits are warning bells for you, but apparently those warning bells only ring if it's a guy doing these sort of things because when Piper does it, people are so quick to defend and sympathize with her.

😒😒😒

3. PIPER DOES NOT LOVE JASON

Piper didn't even know Jason. Her memories of him were all fake. She didn't even know the dude's last name 😂

They knew each other for about a week before dating. According to Autumn, they finally began dating in The Quest for Buford on Christmas Eve (December 24th).

"But they had a lot of time to get to know each other before that! They went on a quest remember???" 

Oh I remember 🤗 

Jason canonically met Piper on December 17th. Then they get taken to Camp Half-Blood, spend a night there and get shipped off to their quest later on, which only lasted a few days. 

And guess what! Did they ever get to know each other better throughout that quest??? Nope! They mostly just thought about how attractive the other was. And then a few months later in their mission to save Nico, she confesses her love to him even though she STILL doesn't know Jason that well. 

Why does she not know Jason well enough? 

Well, first off, she literally does not care about him other than his body. There are times where she expresses her concern over his safety, but that was only because if he got killed, she would no longer be able to have him. 

Other than that, anything else, she doesn't care about. 

She doesn't ask about his past or his home because she's scared to lose him to it. If she were to keep asking him about what his life was like, he'd feel nostalgic, and we already know how upset she gets whenever that happens. 

This is a relationship based on LUST, not LOVE. 

4. PIPER HAS A CONCERNING AMOUNT OF SOCIOPATHIC TRAITS

This is my favorite part omfg I love discussing sociopathy and asehfwhgrfuy 

(This is the time for my Ted Bundy essay to ✨shine✨)

First off, Piper's not a psychopath. If I ever said that she was, I apologize for that. While she does have a few psychopathic traits, I don't think she pretends to feel emotions and that's a trait most commonly associated with psychopaths. 

So instead, she leans more closer to sociopathy side which isn't any better, but oh well 💀

The first sign of a sociopath is their lack of remorse. However, it's possible for them to experience some guilt and empathy in some cases, but remorse is a completely different thing (McCall, 2019). 

What's the difference?

Guilt is "I feel bad about myself because I did something wrong uwu 🥺"

Whereas remorse is "I wish I hadn't done that because I understand what I did was wrong"

There are many times Piper felt guilty about her actions, though most of the times she quickly justifies it and pins the blame on someone else. She never actually gives a shit about the people she hurt or the things she did, she just feels bad about herself instead.

- She prayed to her mom (who she doesn't even like) for Jason to not be the one who dies "an oath to keep with a final breath" even if it meant the others would die instead

Please, she thought, wondering if her mom, the goddess of love, could hear her. Don't let it be Jason's final breath. If love means anything, don't take him away. 

As soon as she had made the wish, she felt guilty. How could she stand to see Annabeth in that kind of pain if Percy died? How could she live with herself if any of the seven demigods died?

Yes, Piper, because how YOU feel if THEY ALL DIED is totally what's important here. 😒 She feels guilty, but it's out of shame for herself. She knows it's wrong to wish for someone's death, that's only reason why she felt bad. Notice how she kept asking herself how could SHE feel about this and that? 

- The quote I showed you in the last chapter about Piper taking Jason away from Reyna. She was very quick to justify it by trying to minimize the issue "oh they weren't really dating, they were just super close friends so me taking him away from his home and trying to keep him from thinking about it is totally okay!" 

- Any time her dad is mentioned, she is always quick to blame him for neglecting her is when he's not even in control of his work schedule and HE HAS A JOB??? Also, in literally every scene he's in, he's always super nice to her? He always spends what little free time he has with her, and she needs to bitch about it and blame him. Not to mention the time she bitched about him taking her to the beach and giving her golden leaf-wrapped sandwiches made by French chefs. How exactly am I supposed to feel sympathy for her if she complains about little things like THAT?

- Always pinning the blame on Hera and Aphrodite for 'forcing the relationship' when it she was the one acting on it and refuses to accept accountability for it.

Sociopaths are also constantly lying, deceiving, and hiding the truth from others. 

Ohhhhhhh maaaaan 😃😃😃

- She hid the truth of her dad's abduction AND WHILE THAT'S PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE AND I WOULD DO THAT TOO SINCE HIS LIFE WAS AT RISK IF SHE SPILLED THE BEANS... the second Jason's life is threatened she straight up tells them "Guys my dad was kidnapped but he's probably dead now that I told you 🥺"

- She never tells people about her visions. In MOA before they go to Kansas, Piper gets a vision of 1) Jason having gold eyes. 2) Her, Jason, and Percy drowning. And 3) A dude with a vine hat.

Which one does she tell them about??? THE ONE ABOUT THE DUDE WITH THE VINE HAT 😂😂😂

Idk about you, but the other two visions are a liiiiittle more concerning and I would tell everyone what I saw immediately. 

And the worst thing? She gets the drowning vision repeatedly throughout the whole book, but never tells anyone about it... UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. And her excuse for why she's been hiding it this whole time was because "I didn't know how to tell you guys 🥺"

Here, from MOA chapter ten, the first time she got the vision:

"Piper explained what she'd seen in the knife—the man in purple with a goblet. She kept quiet about the other images, though, like the vision of Percy, Jason, and herself drowning. She wasn't sure what it meant, anyway."

Uh, Piper, it means you, Percy, and Jason drown in the future so you should probably warn them about it so they'd know what to expect 😐 Don't just keep it to yourself because you DiDn'T knOw HoW tO tElL tHeM.

- Her hiding her visions also hindered on the mission to save Nico, and she was aware that she could potentially be putting him at risk because Percy kept asking "are you sure you didn't see anything in your knife? Anything that can help with Nico??? Plssss" and Piper would think back to the drowning vision and be like "nope! didn't see anything!!! hahahaha, pls stop asking me"

From MOA chapter 41:

Percy pointed at Piper's dagger. "Tiberinus said you could find Nico's location... you know, with that." 

Piper bit her lip. The last thing she wanted to do was check Katoptris for more terrifying images.

Percy straight up told her that she could help them find and save Nico and she still denies. She lies to him that no, she hasn't seen anything. Percy asks her again, she still denies, then him and Jason hound her and she finally gives in. They look at the knife and see the Romans preparing to attack blah blah blah, and then the vision shifts and she starts to recognize the room they see cuz it's the same one where they all drown and you know what she does???

Yeets the knife away before they could see it! 

Okay she didn't really yeet it, but she drops the knife before the boys can see anything and goes "you guys saw nothing hahaha, we can't go here hahaha". Luckily, Percy recognized the area and takes them there and she's STILL trying to keep them from going and then she finally admits to the vision

Percy: 👁👄👁

Percy: why would not tell us this

Piper: Because I didn't know how to tell you guys 🥺

Jason: Oh piper it's okay 🤡

(ALSO YOU KNOW WHAT I JUST REALIZED??? TURNS OUT JASPER IS COUPLE GOALS CUZ THEY DON'T TRUST EACH OTHER AND THEY WERE BOTH GOING TO LET NICO DIE 😍)

(okay I need to move on before I get into another long passion-filled rant about how much I love Nico and how much he does NOT deserve this shit because wtf Piper)

(Also yes, I discuss this part a lil in chapter 26)

There's also arrogance/narcissism.

I noticed that people were very quick to use Piper's insecurities as a justifiable reason for her wanting to manipulate Jason into a relationship, but she's not actually insecure. 

(Either way, using insecurity to justify manipulation is uh... not good wtf)

As Autumn states multiple times, Piper has a very high opinion of herself. 

She "puts herself on a pedestal she has done nothing to earn, gives herself things she has done nothing to earn (like praise, Jason, Katoptris, for example), over-glorifies herself and her accomplishments no matter how small or stupid, always gives herself the credit that other demigods deserve way more, fishes for compliments (if someone was insecure of themselves, they wouldn't easily complain about it to others. Insecurity is something no one wants others to know about. If someone was insecure about themself, they'd maturely talk to it about someone to help them get over it, not complain and Piper always complains to others, like saying 'Reyna's beautiful, powerful, and Roman',  'I'm not the one who should get the Physician's Cure cause everyone else can do better', etc...)" 

Autumns brings up a bunch of good points. 

Piper really isn't insecure. 

Characters like Frank and Leo are insecure, but Piper? No. Plus, the fact that she's constantly commenting on her own looks and how she's just too pretty for her own good? Or how she took Katoptris even after Annabeth told her knives/daggers were only for experienced demigods and she thought she was just as good as Annabeth? Wow okay, Piper, tone it down with the insecurities 😢

Another sociopathic trait is a lack of care and concern for others

Omg the dirt I have on this bitch... 😂😂😂

I'll just make a list and I'll try and do it in chronological order:

- Zero respect for her dad and always demonizing him as a neglectful parent when he's not in control of his schedule and he's always seen spending time with her during his breaks and even going so far as to tell her stories about the Native American heritage and give her nice things

- Did not care about Jason's happiness and constantly put hers over it by taking advantage of his amnesia for the sake of her stupid fake memories 

- Was very quick to act disdainfully towards her own siblings even after two of them helped her

- Was willing to let Leo and Jason die by luring them into a trap in order to save her dad

- Was willing to let her dad die by telling Leo and Jason the truth in order to save them from being lured into a trap

- Threatened to kill Drew out of jealousy, obsessiveness over Jason, and possessiveness over Jason

- Did not care about Jason's loved ones back in Camp Jupiter and only wanted him to herself

- Did not care about Leo when he was beating himself up for being possessed and bombing New Rome and was concerned over an unconscious Jason instead when she could've left the room to go check on him (it wasn't like Jason was gonna go anywhere anyways, there was no need for her to spend HOURS in that room with him... while he was unconscious... okay wait that's just creepy wtf)

- Was willing to let possessed!Percy get killed by possessed!Jason if that meant Jason could live

- Was willing to let the rest of the Seven die if it meant she and Jason could live and be together

- And by extension to that ^, she was also willing to let the rest of the world die because there's no damn way the two of them could defeat Gaea and save the world on their own

- Constantly used her charmspeak on her friends even for the littlest things by manipulating how they feel and whatnot. Yeah sure using charmspeak to calm them down is harmless, but she's always doing it even during regular conversations. There's literally no need to do that. It's also hypocritical too since she's always going on about how she HATES her charmspeak... yet uses it all the fucking time even in unnecessary situations

- Was willing to let Nico die because she couldn't face her 'hOrRiFyInG vIsiOns 😱' when in reality she herself just didn't want to die by drowning and was okay to let Nico die instead

Aaaaand I gotta stop the list here but that's only because I haven't finished House of Hades yet and I haven't reached Blood of Olympus either (so there's still many more Piper POVs to go 💀). There's probably a lot more instances I missed in TLH to MOA, but these were the first ones I could think of and easily find. 

Oh wait, one more thing:

- Throwing Jason away after she was done using him in TOA. She manipulated him, controlled his life, took him away from his home, and then suddenly realizes how 'fake' the relationship was... but not because of her. No no, she's never to blame for that, she pins the blame on Hera and Aphrodite instead who didn't force her to continue the relationship (and her mom doesn't even have anything to do with it)

Then there's aggressive behavior and irritability which she also shows.

This is from Autumn's rant, but Piper's actually very aggressive. 

Despite the fact that she claims she doesn't care what people think or say about her, she's pretty quick to resort to (failed) violence any time she's insulted. 

Drew sniffed. "And nobody wants you, hon. Does your hair always look like a dead badger?" 

Piper stepped forward, ready to smack her, but Annabeth said, "Piper, stop."

Yeah duh, anyone would get angry if they were insulted, but Piper's stated multiple times that she supposedly doesn't care about what people say about her and her appearance, but she gets very defensive when she's insulted. If she really didn't care, she'd probably roll her eyes or glare, or just shrug it off. Instead, she was seconds away from hitting someone. 

"Right. It's because we're hardwired for battle. Restless, impulsive—we don't fit in with regular kids. You should hear how much trouble Percy—" Her face darkened. "Anyway, demigods get a bad rep. How'd you get in trouble?" 

Usually when someone asked that question, Piper started a fight, or changed the subject, or caused some kind of distraction. But for some reason she found herself telling the truth.

Someone: So how'd you get in trouble?

Piper: *fights them because she's bAdAsS*

As for irritability, like... 90% of the POVs I had to read of her she's either thinking of Jason (drooling over him, thinking of ways to manipulate him, getting upset with him for remembering his home, etc) or being grumpy and mopey about herself. 

She really isn't much of a happy camper 😂

So uh... 

Lack of remorse ✔

Lying ✔

Deceptiveness ✔

Hiding the truth from others ✔

Arrogance ✔

Lack of care and concern for others ✔

Aggressive behavior ✔

Irritability ✔

So yeah, these are some pretty concerning sociopathic traits for Piper to have 💖

5. PIPER APOLOGISTS ARE WEIRD 💀

I'll probably offend a lot of people, but Piper apologists are kinda like Snape apologists. 

They fawn over an abuser, ignore all evidence that their fav even is an abuser, and when they don't ignore it, they try to justify their actions with their tRaGic BaCksTorY as if that's a good excuse, and they paint other characters as the bad guy or pin the blame on other innocent characters (Snape apologists blaming Harry because he was being a disrespectful student or blaming Neville for being alive, and Piper apologists blaming Jason for being a 'bad boyfriend' or Hera/Aphrodite for 'forcing the relationship'). 

The only big difference is that Snape apologists are more delusional (and worse) because there's literally SOOOO MUCH EVIDENCE of him being a sucky person but one lil sOb StOrY was apparently enough to make people forget about it. Whereas in the books, Piper was always put in a good light. She was supposed to be the good guy so of course none of her actual terrible flaws would be called out nor would they be glaringly obvious. 

Either way, I'll never understand liking characters like these. If Piper's actual flaws were called out in the canon series, I'd probably like her especially since she would've been such a good yandere character but Rick fucked it up and made her a mess and don't even get me started on her internal misogyny 🤢

Fucked up characters are more fun if they're called out in their original books. Not so fun when they're not and half the readers to pick up on it instead while the other half tries to defend them. 

Now to the people asking me to give Piper a chance and change her character... 🥺

No 💖

I stated aaaall the way back in the previous rant in Moros that I would be keeping Piper as her canon self and having characters call her out on it. I will not be giving her special treatment like Rick did or any of the other authors of fanon!Piper fics. If you want fanon!Piper so badly, go read one of those fics because there's a LOT. 

You can send me a string of comments or messages asking or demanding me to be nicer to Piper (even after I already explicitly stated that I WON'T), but all you're doing is fueling my hate for her 😍

So the more you ask me to stop and try to excuse her actions, the more I want to destroy her 🥺🥺🥺

I'm done here! I'll be finishing my "Sociopathy of Ted Bundy" essay now so byeee!

😃✌️