Personal Opinion: MCU Spider-Man is NOT Iron Man Jr

A/N: This is another Personal Opinion things about. I however, just want to make one thing clear so I don't get the comments coming directly.

(I am not doing this in response to the Spider-Man situation. That Bandage has been peeled off at this point. I'm just doing this because this has been a common complaint from People who don't like Spider-Man's portrayal in the MCU and I thought I can give my own opinion on the matter).

Some People loved the MCU Spider-Man. However, there are others who dislike him or say that he is not Spider-Man. But, rather a "Iron Man Jr".

The complaints that some people make come in the form of:

*Peter didn't face that many consequences for his actions as Spider-Man.

*Spider-Man got his iconic suit from Tony rather than having made it himself and He relied on Stark Tech.

*Tony was more influential to Peter rather than Uncle Ben.

And while yes, I can see where people are coming from when they bring these up for arguments. But, I do however have to respectfully disagree with those.

This page is why I personally don't think the MCU's Incarnation of Spider-Man is an Iron Man Jr as some say he is.

To start off, I need to bring these here first.

https://youtu.be/NrXlGmnUugg

https://youtu.be/aHy8Piav4Cg

https://youtu.be/ap5pmzbTJOk

https://youtu.be/ap5pmzbTJOk

In These four vidoes, Channel Pup honestly did a damn good job and analyzing and bringing up certain things that some people seemed to miss.


But, I should at least say the obvious now first. I'm not doing this to change opinions of people. I'm just doing this manly because I just don't agree with those opinions about Spider-Man being nothing but Iron Man Jr. And I should at least back up my reasoning on why. And considering I had just gotten through watching these a while back. I figured why not.

So yes, some stuff I'll be saying here may sound similar to what Channel Pup, but, that'll at least answer most of the complaints people had about MCU Spider-Man with things that I at saw in the films he was featured in. And I'll at least do what I can to not make this too long as it should be.

So, let's start with the first problem.

*Peter didn't face that many consequences for his actions as Spider-Man.

In Civil War, Peter says the line of "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen? They happen because of you". That was a mention to what happened to Uncle Ben. He could have prevented what had happened to Uncle Ben, but he didn't do so and now he had to face the consequences when Ben died.

In Homecoming, Spider-Man's fight with robbers accidentally resulted in Delmar's Sandwich store (Delmar's livelihood and home) destroyed. Being Spider-Man has some negative impact on Peter and the lives around him. Later in Homecoming, After Spider-Man messed up his mission to stop Vulture at the Staten Island Ferry, making himself look like a bit of a fool, He got lectured by Tony and even had his suit that Tony gave to him. To which Peter had to work with his first suit and web-shooters to take down Vulture.

In Far From Home, Peter was under the pressure of him having to be the new Iron Man or someone else to become the new Iron Man. When he finally got to sit down and talk with Beck after their fight with Molten Man and after he and Beck got to know each other well, Peter entrusted E.D.I.T.H. to him. After he eventually finds out Beck was a fake, via help from MJ, he now had to face the consequences of knowing he likely got him and the people around him killed for giving Beck E.D.I.T.H. And Lastly, a video from beck during the mid credits of the films has Beck revealing Peter's Identity, now he has to deal with what comes next because of it.

*Spider-Man got his iconic suit from Tony rather than having made it himself and He relied on Stark Tech.

Yes, there's no denying that he got his iconic suit from Tony rather than him bothering to build it himself. However, what needs to be taken into account that he's been Spider-Man for about 6 months. He had his own gadgets, had his own suit and web-shooters before ever meeting Tony. He even made adapting goggles to help him refine his senses. The kid's really impressive and gaining upgraded suits from Tony doesn't really change that him being Spider-Man. And I don't see a reason why Peter would turn them down. Him getting his suit from someone else doesn't really take away about him being Spider-Man. He basically got a suit that was able to help him more in his role as Spider-Man. And even then, with the stark tech, and when he's making his own suit after Tony was gone,


*Tony was more influential to Peter rather than Uncle Ben.

Like I said before, Peter has been Spider-Man for 6 months before meeting Tony. And when Tony asked Peter about what his motives were, Peter responded about doing what he can do when bad things happen, but not bothering to step up, it's on him for it happening. Peter was basically admitting to what had happened to Uncle Ben and not having taken responsibility in doing anything until it was too late. And it was with that which was what lead to him being Spider-Man or at least lead to him actually wanting to stop any crime or whatever that was going on and what made him want to be like the avengers. Peter actually acted a little bit like Steve in spite of Tony's appearance in his life. Steve recognized Peter's spirit in Civil War when he said: "You got heart, kid". It was because of the fact that Peter had a great upbringing with a strong moral guidance from Uncle Ben. Yes, obviously, you don't hear Uncle Ben mentioned by his name much or at least get to see a picture of him. However, you shouldn't necessarily need to see him. In a way, you can still see him in Peter. His aspirations to be a hero, his best self and to step up and lend a hand even when he shouldn't even when everyone is telling him to stay out of the way via Adrian Toomes or Tony. Heroes and Villains alike were telling Peter to stay out of everything and keep down. But, Peter refused because of the greater influence. Even after Tony took away the suit he gave to Peter, he still kept on going with the older suit, his own web-shooters and his own skills.

Peter didn't just simply follow every single word Tony ever said like it was some sort of influential advice for approval. Peter was the type of kid who was always trying to take things into his own hands. He's been with Tony sometimes in the MCU because Peter was inexperienced and naive. He at least just want to be like him, in the extend that he can at least have more experience as Spider-Man so he can do what he can to prevent anymore events like Uncle Ben from happening.


Peter and Tony do still have a sort of "father/son" relationship. But, even then, it doesn't mean Tony is negating Uncle Ben or he's acting as the new Uncle Ben and Spider-Man is trying to become Iron Man jr. Tony mostly acted as a sort of disciplinary figure to Peter during Civil War and Homecoming. The only time Tony ever really stepped up to the idea of that or any sort of mentoring was whenever Peter got himself in trouble. Otherwise, after the whole Germany thing, he left Peter hanging with little to no contact. In Infinity War, the two at the very least have more time with each other and even start working out plans. And once Peter's death comes, Tony embraces a scared and confused Peter who begged and hugged Tony as he was beginning to dissolve away. Tony himself was even in distraught when it happens. We see Tony feel a sort of guilt from this since not only was allies he lost, he even makes it clear how distraught he was about losing peter when he says: "I lost the Kid". Years later, when the Avengers were able do the time heist, snap their fingers and bring everyone back; Tony was happy to see him alive. Even to where he could finally hug him, even holding back his tears while doing so. However, it would be their first and final hug. After Tony died to save not just Peter, but everyone he cared for, Peter was now being asked the question; who will be the next Iron Man. With the pressure and grief getting to him, he just wanted to get away from it and enjoy his field trip. He even left his Spider suit behind as well.

(I know that sounds like a bad way to deal with grief, but I think we should at least understand that there are different ways on how grief is portrayed).

However, Aunt May later packed his suit herself without his knowledge and he eventually met Nick Fury, who didn't take kindly with Peter ghosting him. And after meeting Beck, Peter found himself pulled right into Superhero stuff again, which results in a lot of stressful stuff going on for him from Brad Davis walking in and taking a photo of Peter with the seamstress as she was trying to strip him and get the stealth suit on him, Peter accidentally calling a drone on the bus, Peter having to worry about his friends being around during any Elemental attacks and even the berating he was getting from Fury. All Peter wanted to do was relax and try to deal with his grief and even try to get with MJ. But this all got in the way. It got worse for him since after he gave Beck E.D.I.T.H., he soon found out he was a bad person and now had to deal with his friends and people close to him being in danger of something was given to Peter after Stark's death. And after the possibly traumatizing illusion scene that Mysterio played on Peter, Peter was at himself having given a super-weapon to someone willing to kill hundreds of thousands and manipulate millions more. Peter felt incapable of living up to Tony's legacy.

Which lead to Peter saying this: "Everywhere I go, I see his face. And the whole world is asking who's going to be the next Iron Man. I don't know if that's me, Happy. I'm not Iron Man."

To which Happy replies with what sums it up best:"You're not Iron Man. You're never going to be Iron Man. Nobody could live up to Tony. Not even Tony."

It wasn't a matter of being the next Iron Man or Tony Stark. He's been all this trouble was because he was trying to follow Tony's path after his death and when he tried to pass it off to someone else, something bad happened from it. Now, it was time for him to finally be who he had always been, for him to make his own suit and become Spider-Man once more. And when he fought against Beck, he wasn't thinking like Stark. He was acting on his own intuitions and skills as well as his Peter tingle to help him beat Beck for good.

And this is all I don't see The MCU Spider-Man as an Iron Man Jr. Yes, he looked up to Tony and was even sort of a father figure to Peter. But, It was Uncle Ben who was responsible for Spider-Man to begin with, Tony only stepped things up in Peter's story and motivated Peter to try and do more for people so no tragedies like the loss of his uncle could happen again. Even if he wasn't mentioned, Uncle Ben still has as much of a influence on Peter as Tony did.


Yeah, I don't just simply like MCU's Spider-Man because he's the most "accurate" version of the character. Like Channel Pup said: We've all got our we've all got a different iteration that we like or Prefer more than others. I like the MCU Spider-Man so much compared to Tobey or Andrew's because I've always found that Tom captures the aspects of both Peter Parker and Spider-Man in a great way, seeing him try hard to want to do more and be a hero was exciting and seeing his relationship between him and Tony throughout the films and how Peter can do things in the future. Marvel Studios, Kevin and the people who worked on the MCU Spider-Man films really did a good job with this Spider-Man. Tobey and Andrew aren't bad. They do amazing job, but, I'm just a Tom guy honestly.


Anyway, I'll easy it down with all the Spider-Man related stuff and have other posts coming out eventually on stuff I may have missed yesterday in regards to either Dragon Ball, Transformers or something else.

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