Okay, I originally did NOT want to respond to arguments like the one I am about to show because it makes me feel like an asshole but I am sick the baseless ones

And warnings, this will be very ranty many times, sorry in advance if I sound like a dick.

And if you know this user(I did crop out the name) don't go and harass or give them shit or whatever, will never approve of that

Says Ace Ops are weak cause we barely saw anything with them

The Ace Ops being Ironwood's personal task force isn't enough? Even if not, one fucking montage doesn't prove shit for team Rwby, cause exactly as this user says, nothing happened.

Even if the montage did have something happen(off screen of course), the Ace Ops would have learned how team Rwby works together as well. It would make logical sense.

You wanna know the reasons team Rwby won, plot convience, Marrow being stupid (will say how later), and nerfs. Simple as that

It takes logical thinking as to how you could tell they were the best in Atlas (Ironwood's personal task force ringing any bells?) But you can't logically think that team Rwby cause nothing happened in said montage to justify the nerf.

Also remember Marrow, he didn't want to fight, so why didn't he use his fucking semblance and freeze all 4 when they all in the same room? Yes, as long as team Rwby are grouped up, Marrow could freeze all four, he did freeze a group of faunus after the background characters got murdered during Robyn Hill's election rally.

In the words of Vexed Viewer, Stupid for the sake of the plot.(Marrow was)

The geihst Grimm in episode 3, is it more powerful that the one that was one shotted by Nora's hammer in volume 4? Yeah it's safe to assume that cause took more to take this one down.

This is why I bring up nothing geihst Grimm

So I ask this to whoever reads this, if we must take Ace Ops as weaker cause nothing was shown much,(aka not that big of a deal) shouldn't team Rwby be still weaker cause nothing was shown as well? I say yes cause if you say no, then you can't use the, they didn't show anything of the Ace Ops as stronger, that's cherry picking the argument that applies to both teams but is only being used for one of them

Show me something (anyone) that proves team Rwby stomping the Ace Ops is not a nerf or makes sense, I will be waiting for a long time.

Sorry for the rant and more than likely sounding like an asshole once again but I am the point where if the argument does NOT make any sense or good points, I am not going to engage cause if I keep ignoring arguments like this, I will be more irritated like the last time this happened (wasn't too long ago either was last time)